Just a brief reminder: there is no contradiction in being pro-troop, anti-war and patriotic. Many of the world's great patriots have been pro-troop and anti-war. We should support our troops and our veterans, but war, any war, has a level of hubris that it's incalculable: regardless of the cause of conflict - the offensive army strokes its ego believing it has a justifiable cause; the defensive army strokes its ego in knowing that an injustice has come upon them. The hubris is even almost worse if the defensive side is the looser: it makes many martyrs.